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Reddit europa universalis 4 vs1/17/2024 I think EU4 is the better strategy game overall, but it's been trending downwards in quality while CK2 has been trending upwards. Ultimately you'll probably enjoy both like I do, if you enjoy strategy games in general. If you're still undecided, you can go for whichever timeperiod of history intrigues you more. If game balance and diversity of playstyles are important to you, go for CK2. If a more passable UI and less needless micromanagement are important for you, go for EU4. However, temper your expectations because people heavily overexaggerate the difference between CK2 and EU4 in this regard. ![]() EU4 has a lot of mechanics but personally, I believe it’s way easier than Vic though a bit tougher than Hoi4. EU4 is quite different from Vic and Hoi4, although I’d say Vic 2 combat is somewhat similar to EU4 combat. If you hope for mechanics that promote internal instability, go for CK2. If you like starting small I suggest Florence or Brandenberg. You'll get better warfare and external diplomacy. If you're fine with external factors being your primary opponent, go for EU4. If you instead wish strategy games could be more like the Sims with opportunities for roleplaying, go for CK2. If you like strategy games for how they make you consider different options with tradeoffs, costs, and benefits, go for EU4. There are a lot of things in the games that are really hard to explain, you either have to be looking at the numbers a lot or see it done. If you are just learning your first paradox game I always recommend watching a lets play to learn and grasp the basics. EU4 is much more country sim and based on the actual country and not the characters at all. If you want to role play your actual character a bit though CK2 can be really fun. In CK2 once you've learned the game the AI is really easy to beat and kind of makes the game less enjoyable if you like challenges in actual fights. But, it really comes down to whether you want to Role Play a little or rule a country. I actually think EU4 is easier to learn if only because you can come across some really unfortunate situations in CK2 that are entirely not even your fault. That being said, the last update and expansion for CK2 was fantastic and the last for EU4 was the worst so far in my opinion. And even then you wonder if all these people who claim to understand the more esoteric mechanics are just faking it like you are. You learn EU4 with 200 hours of experience and a graduate level course worth of research. Mandate of Heaven is still buggy and unbalanced, but they will eventually get around to fixing it as usual.People on here seem to say CK2 but my friends and I all have gotten more time and enjoyment out of EU4 over the years. There's no comparison on the learning curve. With the possible exception of El Dorado, though, as it was the last DLC that was entirely positive in all aspects.Īlthough I must admit that I have heard Rights of Man is also entirely positive. All others have some downside for some of the nations. Republics dont take stab hits every time their monarch dies. They also usually have strong trade and naval national ideas. Republics often have access to strong trade nodes, so a lot of gold will be flowing into your nation all game. The normal EU sale lasts only 3 days, so you have to be quick.Īrt of War is pretty much the only DLC which helps 100% of the nations. Republics can have constant 6/6/6 leaders while Monarchies are totally random. ![]() Just put them on your wish list and Steam will email you when they go on sale. ![]() You can add the others when they go on sale for 75% off. Just buy the base game and Art of War, and you are good to go. But min-maxing ck2 is really really hard. The difference between the two is that EU4 forces you to engage with it's complexity or be destroyed while ck2 allows you to just dip your toe in and do fine. I would actually say that CK2 is more complex. Most current strategies and tips are for gamers with alot of the dlc features.It's debatable in which order you want to buy the dlc's, my suggestion is to grab a few that mostly affects the countries you are intrested in playing for starters. CK2 is more enjoyable (and free), and EU4 is more complex imo. Originally posted by Horatious:Personally I bought the core game, read up on some tactics and the wiki, and started buying dlc´s straight away.
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